Where did Liberals come from

John Locke, Rousseau and Voltaire

California is one of the most Liberal states in the union, and I was wondering where Liberalism came from. There are many sites on the internet so I chose this one to post.The above people above were instrumental in forming the party. Though there are others that helped it along. This is a small insert from http://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/1365/how-did-the-term-liberal-become-progressive.

American liberalism, the dominant Ideology of the Democratic Party, was formed from two strands:

Classical liberalism, the philosophy formed in the Enlightenment by thinkers like John Locke, Voltaire, and Rousseau, and providing the driving force for both the American Revolution and the French Revolution, which states that the autonomy of the individual should be maximized, and the individual should be freed from whatever institutions are preventing them from reaching their potential, be it the Church or the State.
Progressivism, a populist reform movement in the early twentieth century, espoused by Presidents like Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson, and grounded in Protestant moralism, which sought to make government both more responsive to the plight of the people, for instance using Constitutional amendments to deal with social problems like alcoholism and using government force to quash monopolies, and at the same time more representative of the will of the electorate, for instance instituting more democracy like the direct election of Senators and ending the corruption of Machine politics in the cities.
These two strands were merged into the ideology we call American liberalism by John Dewey and his followers, who argued that we needed a broader conception of liberty than the one maintained by laissez-faire negative-rights libertarians. The key idea can be summed up in a quote from Anatole France: “In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets, and steal loaves of bread.” Basically, the idea is that the freedom to starve because you have no food is not a meaningful freedom at all, because it does not maximize your autonomy or allow your to realize your potential, which were important goals in classical liberalism.

Thus Dewey argued that we should recognize positive liberty as well as negative liberty, meaning that e.g. just as we ought to recognize a right to live without someone killing you, we similarly ought to recognize a right to live without dying due to lack of food. Thus American liberalism advocates that the government should play some role in the economy in order to give people autonomy and enable them to pursue their own happiness, along the lines of the “responsiveness” part of the Progressive philosophy. Thus Americans liberals still try to achieve the goals of classical liberalism, but they sometimes do it through Progressive means. (This is akin to how, as I discuss here, American conservatism tries to achieve the goals of traditionalism, but often through libertarian means.)

There’s one other way that American liberalism differs from classical liberalism: classical liberals took a deontological perspective on liberty, viewing personal autonomy and the pursuit of happiness as things that are inherently worthy of being promoted, regardless of what they lead to. American liberalism, on the other hand, because it emerged partly from Progressivism, tends to take a more utilitarian perspective on such things, viewing autonomy merely as a means to an end, the end being increasing the happiness of as many people as possible. The liberal understanding of utilitarianism is perhaps best understood through the work of John Rawls, who proposed a thought experiment along roughly these lines: suppose that you’re a soul waiting to be born, but you don’t know which body you’re going to be born into and what experiences that body is going to have. But before you’re born, you have the opportunity to design how society and government should be. How should you design it in order to maximize your chances of having a good life? Well, you don’t know what desires you’re going to have, but whatever they are, you’re probably going to want them fulfilled, so you would want a society that as much as possible allows people to pursue their own happiness. And you may end up being born in utter poverty that may prevent you from being happy, or you may start off being wealthy but then you may suffer calamities like disease and natural disasters, so assuming you’re risk averse (as humans tend to be in most circumstances), you’d want the government to have a safety net to shelter you from such risks. So that’s where the basic contours of the liberal position emerge.

Finally, let me mention something about foreign policy. The Progressive presidents advocated a very interventionist foreign policy, since they were motivated by the desire to help people as much as possible, even people abroad. Liberals still share some of this impulse, and are willing to support limited American military intervention in circumstances of extreme humanitarian crisis. But mostly their foreign policy views were taken from classical liberalism, so they they’re antiwar for the most part.

In any case, when contemporary liberals call themselves progressive, they’re hearkening back to their intellectual predecessors.

(I discuss the underpinnings of American conservatism here if you’re interested.)

EDIT: Yuval Levin has just written a book which argues that the positive rights vision of liberalism originated not with Dewey in the early twentieth century as I suggested, but rather in the late 1700’s with Thomas Paine, one of America’s founding fathers. Levin argues that the modern American left-right divide originated in the debate in America and England over the French Revolution. Paine was an enthusiastic supporter of the French Revolution, because he thought that government is an institution deliberately created by people to sageguard their individual liberty, and so it could be overthrown whenever the people thought it wasn’t doing a good job. On the other hand, Edmund Burke, a predecessor to modern conservatism, saw government as an institution that grew organically as a tradition, and that we should be suspicious of making changes to it just because individuals in the current generation happen to object to it. In any case, Paine’s philosophy of individualism led him to believe that an individual can only realize his full potential if he’s not constrained by material want, so he believed in the government providing basic necessities to everyone. Thus, Levin argues, the early twentieth century Progressive movement was merely reinventing the wheel.

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Throw the Stone

John 8:7King James Version (KJV)
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
My family and I have always been Democrats, Until the Party forgot why they were in office and started working for themselves instead of the people. I then switched to The Republican party. And to my dismay I found they were no different.
I have always said we need a Truck driver or laboror to rum for President. But instead we got Donald Trump.
He is a Billionair and isn’t living day by day as we are and in someways dissconected from us which turns a lot of perople away from .
Then I started to listen to him and behind all those comments that his opposition jumps on. I found a person that really wants to make our country great again, Believe me, it needs some changes because we are heading the the wrong way.
Think about it. The lord says if you are without sin throw the first stone. Well you tell me any person male or female that hasn’t looked at another person and hasn’t had a lewd thought at some time in their lives probably a lot of times.
Right now I am ashamed of McCain, Ryan, Rubio and the others who turn their backs on Trump. If they say they are Sin Free, they are liars, Plain and Simple. Maybe we should look at the real reason they are against him, Is it because they cannot control him?
John 8:7King James Version (KJV)
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
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Not sure WHO or WHAT I am anymore..

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I have become more complicated, and I want to thank those of you who are brave enough to still associate with me regardless of what I have become.

 

The following is a recap of my current identity:

I was born white, which makes me a racist.

 

I am a fiscal and moral conservative, which makes me a fascist.

I am heterosexual, which makes me a homophobe.

 

I am a Christian, which makes me an infidel.

 

I am older than 70 and retired, which makes me a useless old man or woman!

I think and I reason, therefore I doubt much that the main stream media tells me, which makes me a reactionary.

 

I am proud of my heritage and our inclusive American culture, which makes me a xenophobe.

I value my safety and that of my family, therefore I appreciate the police and the legal system, which makes me a right-wing extremist.

 

I believe in hard work, fair play, and fair compensation according to each individual’s merits, which makes me anti-social.

I, and my friends, acquired a good education without student loans and no debt at graduation, which makes me some kind of odd underachiever.

 

I believe in the defense and protection of the homeland by all citizens, which makes me a militarist.

Please help me come to terms with this, because I‘m not sure who I am anymore!

 

And now, my newest problem: I’m not sure which bathroom to use!?!

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Who to Vote for

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Who should I Vote for?
Voting is getting closer, who do I vote for? My friends tell me who they think is the best candidate is, my Parents tell me what they think I should do. The media push a Candidate (They are bias) so what should I do?

The answer is actually pretty simple:
Keep a notebook or smart phone with you and ask everyone questions, ask about security, gun, control, economy, immigration and anything else you can think of. Then put a note down on your reaction to each question and see how you really feel about the answers you get. Then study each candidate and see how close they come to how you really feel about things.

 Remember, we all live with our actions, so make sure this is what you want.giphy
Then Vote!!

Trump Lovers

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Recently I received a questionnaire and request for money from the Republican Party and strongly agree with every question, as I have since Obama was elected.

Unfortunately the one question that was missing is: What have the Republicans done for the American people?

We gave you a majority in the House and Senate, and you never listened to us. Now you want our money, my money, more money. You should be more concerned about our votes, not our money.

You are the establishment which means all you want is to save your jobs and line your pockets.

Well guess what? It’s not going to happen.

TRUMP hasn’t asked for a dime.

You might think we are fools because you feel Trump is on a self-destruct course, but look beyond Washington and listen to the masses. Nobody has achieved what he has, especially in the state of New York .

Here’s why I want Trump. Yes, he’s a bit of an ass; yes, he’s an egomaniac; but I don’t care.
The country is a mess because politicians suck.
The Republican Party is two-faced and gutless, and illegals are everywhere.
I want it all fixed!
I don’t care that Trump is crude.
I don’t care that he insults people.
I don’t care that he has changed positions.
I don’t care that he’s been married 3 time.
I don’t care that he fights with Megan Kelly and Rosie O’Donnell.
I don’t care that he doesn’t know the name of some Muslin terrorist.

Our country has become weak, bankrupt. Our enemies are making fun of us. We are being invaded by illegals. We are becoming a nation of victims where every Tom, Ricardo and Hassid is a special group with special rights to a point where we don’t even recognize the country we were born and raised in, “AND I JUST WANT IT FIXED.” And Trump is the only guy who seems to understand what the people want.

I’m sick of politicians, sick of the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, and sick of illegals. I just want this thing fixed. Trump may not be a saint, but he doesn’t have lobbyist money controlling him; he doesn’t have political correctness restraining him; all you know is that he has been very successful; a good negotiator; he has built a lot of things; and, he’s also not a politician. And, he says he’ll fix it. And, I believe him because he is too much of an egotist to be proven wrong or looked at and called a liar.

I don’t care if the guy has bad hair.

OPPOSE AB 450, AB 1664, AB 1673, AB 1674, AB 1695, and AB 2607.

These are gun laws going before Governor Brown today. It makes me mad but there is nothing I can do to stop him from passing them. Liberals outnumber us and don’t care if we call, write or email them they will not listen, they laugh at us and do whatever they want anyway. I applaud the NRA  and other gun rights groups for fighting the above, but we are out numbered.

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Quotes

 

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Young fella, if you’re looking for trouble, I’ll accommodate ya.” – As Rooster Cogburn in the 1969 film True Grit,

I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” – As J.B Books in the 1976 film The Shootist ,

Well, there are some things a man just can’t run away from.” – As the Ringo Kid in the 1939 film Stagecoach

I’ve made over 250 pictures and have never shot a guy in the back. Change it.” – Statement made by John Wayne while shooting the 1976 film The Shootist

All battles are fought by scared men who’d rather be some place else.”- As Capt. Rock Well Torrey in the 1965 film In Harm’s Way

Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway

Life’s hard. It’s even harder when you’re stupid.

I’ve always followed my father’s advice he told me, first to always keep my word and, second, to never insult anybody unintentionally. If I insult you, you can be goddamn sure I intend to. And, third, he told me not to go around looking for trouble.

– John Wayne

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DONALD TRUMP, How To Get RichIf you’re thinking already, you might as well think big.

In my life, there are two things I’ve found I’m very good at: overcoming obstacles and motivating good people to do their best work.” (New York Magazine, 1987)

One of the problems when you become successful is that jealousy and envy inevitably follow. There are people — I categorize them as life’s losers — who get their sense of accomplishment and achievement from trying to stop others. As far as I’m concerned, if they had any real ability, they wouldn’t be fighting me, they’d be doing something constructive themselves.” (“Trump: The Art of the Deal,” 1987)

Living your words, walking your talk, and talking your walk. (“Midas Touch: Why Some Entrepreneurs Get Rich and Why Most Don’t,” 2011)

You know the funny thing, I don’t get along with rich people. I get along with the middle class and the poor people better than I get along with the rich people.” (“Good Morning America,” 2011)
One of the key problems today is that politics is such a disgrace. Good people don’t go into government. I’d want to change that.” (The Advocate, 2000)